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		<title>By: megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 05:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i completely understand &#38; respect your point of view. you have both worked your butts off &#38; deserve this trip as you've always dreamt' it... but i've visited poor, third world countries &#38; i don't think i could do it without some volunteering. i agree with you that buying from the locals is doing a major part to support them, but during that month in honduras, what i remember most is playing with the children in the orphanage- not the nice day trip to the beach or the tourist town where i could finally find some decent gifts to bring home to my family.  even if it's not making a huge impact- i felt like my love for that short time was enough. 

granted- in cuba i didn't do any volunteer work, nor think i had the time.  

i'm glad you don't feel the need to apologize- you shouldn't. but i do hope you find a couple cool causes worth spending a few days on. it'll allow you to see &#38; understand the cultures in a deeper way than just eating at local rest. &#38; shopping at their markets. 

i'm sooooo jealous! hopefully we will get our butts to somewhere on your trip. did i mention bryan got his passport, i'm suddenly hopeful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i completely understand &amp; respect your point of view. you have both worked your butts off &amp; deserve this trip as you&#8217;ve always dreamt&#8217; it&#8230; but i&#8217;ve visited poor, third world countries &amp; i don&#8217;t think i could do it without some volunteering. i agree with you that buying from the locals is doing a major part to support them, but during that month in honduras, what i remember most is playing with the children in the orphanage- not the nice day trip to the beach or the tourist town where i could finally find some decent gifts to bring home to my family.  even if it&#8217;s not making a huge impact- i felt like my love for that short time was enough. </p>
<p>granted- in cuba i didn&#8217;t do any volunteer work, nor think i had the time.  </p>
<p>i&#8217;m glad you don&#8217;t feel the need to apologize- you shouldn&#8217;t. but i do hope you find a couple cool causes worth spending a few days on. it&#8217;ll allow you to see &amp; understand the cultures in a deeper way than just eating at local rest. &amp; shopping at their markets. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m sooooo jealous! hopefully we will get our butts to somewhere on your trip. did i mention bryan got his passport, i&#8217;m suddenly hopeful!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/05/18/volun-tourism/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...I have a friend who often sends off one-line snarky emails that usually contain spelling errors. Could he be the "anonymous" from above? Theresa, you got a guess to whom I refer?

This post and then the "Three Cups of Tea" example makes me think of an on-going debate in the field of academic scholarship. I'm not sure how wide the argument ranges, as I'm most familiar with it in regards to Rhetoric and Composition work. The debate is multi-faceted by mostly boils down to "what responsibility do we have to the people we are studying?" and "if there is a responsibility, what actions are appropriate?" 

Say a person is doing ethnographic studies of an indigienous community, as are a number of people I know. Many argue, and many agree with this argument(as I do), that to only study these people -- in other words, to take, take, take -- without giving something back is both irresponsible and unethical. The question becomes complicated not by the "so what do you give back" but the slippery question of "does the academic model allow for such give-back time?" This quandry is often faced, for the first time, but graduate students writing dissertations. As Jeff has demonstrated to us, such work is accomplished on a more-than-tight schedule, a schedule that would allow for zero of this "give-back" time. 

Seems that the current academic approach is to "plant a seed." To try to give something back that you or someone else could return to later. In that sense, I agree with Amanda, in that I see you taking a slightly too cynical view on Volun-tourism. If the trip plants a seed, as opposed to providing a self-contained pat on the back, then good work has been done. On the other hand, I can see how someone else's selfish intentions can lead to the cynical viewpoint you have arrived at.

The other point worth mentioning - which you allude to in your post -is the overhead costs associated with such trips. The bigger point is all volunteer and no-profit work includes such overhead. When this becomes a problem is when different organizations are replicating each other's work while multiplying the overhead costs. The common example of this occurs when an athlete/celebrity wants to start an organization with his/her name on the organization. Too often the result is a copycat organization that becomes weighed down by the large percentage of funds it cannot return to the communities it is trying to help. In terms of volun-tourism the "plant the seed" aspect of the trip could be increased if there was more an emphasis on the communities and less on pleasing the vacationer (the consumer), which, in turn, might cut down on the overhead costs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;I have a friend who often sends off one-line snarky emails that usually contain spelling errors. Could he be the &#8220;anonymous&#8221; from above? Theresa, you got a guess to whom I refer?</p>
<p>This post and then the &#8220;Three Cups of Tea&#8221; example makes me think of an on-going debate in the field of academic scholarship. I&#8217;m not sure how wide the argument ranges, as I&#8217;m most familiar with it in regards to Rhetoric and Composition work. The debate is multi-faceted by mostly boils down to &#8220;what responsibility do we have to the people we are studying?&#8221; and &#8220;if there is a responsibility, what actions are appropriate?&#8221; </p>
<p>Say a person is doing ethnographic studies of an indigienous community, as are a number of people I know. Many argue, and many agree with this argument(as I do), that to only study these people &#8212; in other words, to take, take, take &#8212; without giving something back is both irresponsible and unethical. The question becomes complicated not by the &#8220;so what do you give back&#8221; but the slippery question of &#8220;does the academic model allow for such give-back time?&#8221; This quandry is often faced, for the first time, but graduate students writing dissertations. As Jeff has demonstrated to us, such work is accomplished on a more-than-tight schedule, a schedule that would allow for zero of this &#8220;give-back&#8221; time. </p>
<p>Seems that the current academic approach is to &#8220;plant a seed.&#8221; To try to give something back that you or someone else could return to later. In that sense, I agree with Amanda, in that I see you taking a slightly too cynical view on Volun-tourism. If the trip plants a seed, as opposed to providing a self-contained pat on the back, then good work has been done. On the other hand, I can see how someone else&#8217;s selfish intentions can lead to the cynical viewpoint you have arrived at.</p>
<p>The other point worth mentioning - which you allude to in your post -is the overhead costs associated with such trips. The bigger point is all volunteer and no-profit work includes such overhead. When this becomes a problem is when different organizations are replicating each other&#8217;s work while multiplying the overhead costs. The common example of this occurs when an athlete/celebrity wants to start an organization with his/her name on the organization. Too often the result is a copycat organization that becomes weighed down by the large percentage of funds it cannot return to the communities it is trying to help. In terms of volun-tourism the &#8220;plant the seed&#8221; aspect of the trip could be increased if there was more an emphasis on the communities and less on pleasing the vacationer (the consumer), which, in turn, might cut down on the overhead costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/05/18/volun-tourism/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really your parents named you Anonymous? Weird. 

I think you can think whatever you want, but the point of this post wasn't to defend why we aren't doing volunteer work. Volunteering was never the point of our trip and will never be the point of our trip. We're doing this to see the world, learn a few things, and have a good time. Period. No apologies. 

We feel plenty comfortable about the ways we give back in our everyday life---both through volunteering our time and giving our money. I hope you do too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really your parents named you Anonymous? Weird. </p>
<p>I think you can think whatever you want, but the point of this post wasn&#8217;t to defend why we aren&#8217;t doing volunteer work. Volunteering was never the point of our trip and will never be the point of our trip. We&#8217;re doing this to see the world, learn a few things, and have a good time. Period. No apologies. </p>
<p>We feel plenty comfortable about the ways we give back in our everyday life&#8212;both through volunteering our time and giving our money. I hope you do too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you protest too much in defending  why you aew not doing volunteer work</description>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Laura and Amanda. I hadn't quite thought of it like that, but I think you're right. If people come away for a volunteer vacation inspired to really help, then it's certainly a worthwhile investment by whatever organization arranged it. I guess my main issues with a lot of volunteer vacations are that A) it's often a one-off, pat yourself on the back type of thing, and B) there's often more attention put to finding a task that's of interest to volunteers than a task that is really beneficial to the community. Of course, there are exceptions and there are some well run programs. 

Also, I'd like to recommend the book "Three Cups of Tea" if you haven't read it. It's about a man who goes to Pakistan on a climbing expedition and ends up getting a lot of aid from a local village. He then decides to thank them by building a school (he provides money and equipment, the village provides the labor). In the end what happens is that he begins a foundation that funds schools all over Pakistan and Afghanistan and also provides scholarships for villagers to go to university, become teachers, and return to teach in these schools. It's a very inspirational book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Laura and Amanda. I hadn&#8217;t quite thought of it like that, but I think you&#8217;re right. If people come away for a volunteer vacation inspired to really help, then it&#8217;s certainly a worthwhile investment by whatever organization arranged it. I guess my main issues with a lot of volunteer vacations are that A) it&#8217;s often a one-off, pat yourself on the back type of thing, and B) there&#8217;s often more attention put to finding a task that&#8217;s of interest to volunteers than a task that is really beneficial to the community. Of course, there are exceptions and there are some well run programs. </p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d like to recommend the book &#8220;Three Cups of Tea&#8221; if you haven&#8217;t read it. It&#8217;s about a man who goes to Pakistan on a climbing expedition and ends up getting a lot of aid from a local village. He then decides to thank them by building a school (he provides money and equipment, the village provides the labor). In the end what happens is that he begins a foundation that funds schools all over Pakistan and Afghanistan and also provides scholarships for villagers to go to university, become teachers, and return to teach in these schools. It&#8217;s a very inspirational book.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/05/18/volun-tourism/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of the points you made in this post. However, I feel that oftentimes people read about an impoverished or war-torn area and feel sympathetic for the people there, but until they actually go to that place, maybe on a volunteer vacation, they won't actually feel the magnitude of the situation. 
Much like what Laura said above, I've had friends who've gone on volunteer vacations or mission trips for a short period of time and have returned with a determination to help more. They've returned for longer periods, spoken about their experience to their friends and community, asked for and sent donations, built relationships with the locals, etc.
I do think some people go on volunteer vacations just to get a sense that they're good people and that they spent their time helping and they don't really care that much about where they go or what they do. On the other hand, I think a lot of people truly want to make a difference and can't commit to a long-term volunteer opportunity, so instead they opt for a shorter-term commitment which could subsequently turn into a life-long commitment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of the points you made in this post. However, I feel that oftentimes people read about an impoverished or war-torn area and feel sympathetic for the people there, but until they actually go to that place, maybe on a volunteer vacation, they won&#8217;t actually feel the magnitude of the situation.<br />
Much like what Laura said above, I&#8217;ve had friends who&#8217;ve gone on volunteer vacations or mission trips for a short period of time and have returned with a determination to help more. They&#8217;ve returned for longer periods, spoken about their experience to their friends and community, asked for and sent donations, built relationships with the locals, etc.<br />
I do think some people go on volunteer vacations just to get a sense that they&#8217;re good people and that they spent their time helping and they don&#8217;t really care that much about where they go or what they do. On the other hand, I think a lot of people truly want to make a difference and can&#8217;t commit to a long-term volunteer opportunity, so instead they opt for a shorter-term commitment which could subsequently turn into a life-long commitment.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/05/18/volun-tourism/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine went to Kenya to volunteer for a month and ended up staying for three and co-founding a non-profit organization when she got back.  The only reason she didn't stay longer was that she was starting to run out of money.  You're right though, she couldn't really have done much in just a week or a few days.  Apparently she felt that she couldn't even do enough in a month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine went to Kenya to volunteer for a month and ended up staying for three and co-founding a non-profit organization when she got back.  The only reason she didn&#8217;t stay longer was that she was starting to run out of money.  You&#8217;re right though, she couldn&#8217;t really have done much in just a week or a few days.  Apparently she felt that she couldn&#8217;t even do enough in a month.</p>
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