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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turns out there's a perfectly good scientific reason I'm a hoarder =).  I found this today look around Nature News.

http://www.nature.com/news/2008/080611/full/news.2008.886.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turns out there&#8217;s a perfectly good scientific reason I&#8217;m a hoarder =).  I found this today look around Nature News.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the few responses that have hinted at the idea that Theresa and Jeff are going to (or should) rid themselves of major personal possessions. They are going to rid themselves of the extra-crap that all of us need to rid ourselves of. But I don't see them getting rid handcarved bowls, Jeff's College WS wall of mementos, video game equipment, expensive kitchen appliances, artwork, etc. etc. 

I think they will do a good job of getting rid of questionable stuff they they prob do not need now and prob will never need in their life going forward. I think the important, useful, and expensive stuff will go in my/our parents' crawlspace. I think the video game stuff will be split, temporarily, between my two brothers. I think I'll raid the storage from time-to-time to borrow something I probably "need" but can't readily afford(card table, ice cream maker, etc.). 

The bigger conversation here is a conversation regarding the definitions each of us use for words such as "useful," "need," "expensive," "crap," "possessions," etc. I do see value in each and all of us cutting back on the amount that we own. I, though, don't see that as what Jeff was hinting at would happen for T and him. All they own that is not "complete and utter shit" is going to the parents' house. And man, is Mom excited about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the few responses that have hinted at the idea that Theresa and Jeff are going to (or should) rid themselves of major personal possessions. They are going to rid themselves of the extra-crap that all of us need to rid ourselves of. But I don&#8217;t see them getting rid handcarved bowls, Jeff&#8217;s College WS wall of mementos, video game equipment, expensive kitchen appliances, artwork, etc. etc. </p>
<p>I think they will do a good job of getting rid of questionable stuff they they prob do not need now and prob will never need in their life going forward. I think the important, useful, and expensive stuff will go in my/our parents&#8217; crawlspace. I think the video game stuff will be split, temporarily, between my two brothers. I think I&#8217;ll raid the storage from time-to-time to borrow something I probably &#8220;need&#8221; but can&#8217;t readily afford(card table, ice cream maker, etc.). </p>
<p>The bigger conversation here is a conversation regarding the definitions each of us use for words such as &#8220;useful,&#8221; &#8220;need,&#8221; &#8220;expensive,&#8221; &#8220;crap,&#8221; &#8220;possessions,&#8221; etc. I do see value in each and all of us cutting back on the amount that we own. I, though, don&#8217;t see that as what Jeff was hinting at would happen for T and him. All they own that is not &#8220;complete and utter shit&#8221; is going to the parents&#8217; house. And man, is Mom excited about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I just went through a similar thing- giving away every scrap of furniture that we could and selling most of the rest.  Let me tell you, it was hard when a woman came by and bought 8 of my framed photographs, that I had collected from various artists over the last 8 years, for $90.  I joked if i missed my stuff, I could just visit her house, because she also got my favorite vase, a decorative mirror and a hand carved bowl from Mexico.  It was tough.

There was also personal things we got rid of.  The book, Letters to a Young Artist, that I had given to my husband when we first met in 2000.  I had written a note in the front about his art career, encouraging him.  $2 and it's gone.

So it is tough.   There is no doubt you will struggle with this.  But as someone on the other side of the process, I can tell you it feels great.  It's like a bandaid.  Best if you just rip it off quickly.  Once it's gone, it is freeing to know that you can travel light.  Big picture:  You'll get there.  Just might sting a little.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I just went through a similar thing- giving away every scrap of furniture that we could and selling most of the rest.  Let me tell you, it was hard when a woman came by and bought 8 of my framed photographs, that I had collected from various artists over the last 8 years, for $90.  I joked if i missed my stuff, I could just visit her house, because she also got my favorite vase, a decorative mirror and a hand carved bowl from Mexico.  It was tough.</p>
<p>There was also personal things we got rid of.  The book, Letters to a Young Artist, that I had given to my husband when we first met in 2000.  I had written a note in the front about his art career, encouraging him.  $2 and it&#8217;s gone.</p>
<p>So it is tough.   There is no doubt you will struggle with this.  But as someone on the other side of the process, I can tell you it feels great.  It&#8217;s like a bandaid.  Best if you just rip it off quickly.  Once it&#8217;s gone, it is freeing to know that you can travel light.  Big picture:  You&#8217;ll get there.  Just might sting a little.  <img src='http://livesofwander.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: wanderingsean</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-909</link>
		<dc:creator>wanderingsean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with Lisa--if you haven't touched it in a year you probably never will.  Travel will probably show you how much "stuff" you really do have (even after your pre-travel purge).  

Dump it and feel the freedom.  We went through a massive purge the year before we left and it was incredible the amount of things that hide in closets, under the bed and desk, and in the garage.  The reason is always the same: "we might need it."  Truth is we really don't, and if we're wrong we'll borrow it or buy it... but we haven't had to.  

Google "discardia" or "simplify" and pick up some great tips.  I realized if we are not using said item, someone else could, so I do my best to sell or donate--Hurray for eBay, Craigslist and freecycle.

Oh, and when we get home I'm doing another purge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Lisa&#8211;if you haven&#8217;t touched it in a year you probably never will.  Travel will probably show you how much &#8220;stuff&#8221; you really do have (even after your pre-travel purge).  </p>
<p>Dump it and feel the freedom.  We went through a massive purge the year before we left and it was incredible the amount of things that hide in closets, under the bed and desk, and in the garage.  The reason is always the same: &#8220;we might need it.&#8221;  Truth is we really don&#8217;t, and if we&#8217;re wrong we&#8217;ll borrow it or buy it&#8230; but we haven&#8217;t had to.  </p>
<p>Google &#8220;discardia&#8221; or &#8220;simplify&#8221; and pick up some great tips.  I realized if we are not using said item, someone else could, so I do my best to sell or donate&#8211;Hurray for eBay, Craigslist and freecycle.</p>
<p>Oh, and when we get home I&#8217;m doing another purge.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"She’s got a pretty good gauge of whats useful or not and she’s more than happy to share it with me." -- I've never known my sister to happily offer unwanted opinions.

My problem is two-fold, and does not directly connect to being a pack-rat in my current state: 1) I don't organize well from the get-go(that's both Theresa's skill and neurotic detriment) and 2) I'm very attached to my academic work. For example, I not only save the original digital copy of a paper, but I also save material "drafts" that were part of the writing process and the graded copy. I also save all notes, research material, readings, etc. Mutiply that over 3 years of humanities grad school with 6 classes a year (with three more years to go), and you can figure out how many filing cabinents I am going to need. And don't forget about the books that have accumulated.

Problem 2, though, is complicated by problem 1. I rarely get the "crap" into the filing cabinents until 2-4 semesters after the work is finished. You think I could use XMas and Summer vacations to do this work, but instead, I just enjoy using the papers as carpet. Amanda loves it too. Alot.

Seriously, my physchological disorder is not pack-rat-ism as much as it is fear of order. I like messes. They make the material(my papers) seem approachable. Once I get everything filed away, I am scared to mess the order up(the same reason for why I hate putting clean clothes away). Without order, though, I spend(waste) alot of time looking for whatever it is I am looking for. My current solution to all this is to look for a bigger apartment -- which, I'm afraid, could turn me into a pack rat afterall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She’s got a pretty good gauge of whats useful or not and she’s more than happy to share it with me.&#8221; &#8212; I&#8217;ve never known my sister to happily offer unwanted opinions.</p>
<p>My problem is two-fold, and does not directly connect to being a pack-rat in my current state: 1) I don&#8217;t organize well from the get-go(that&#8217;s both Theresa&#8217;s skill and neurotic detriment) and 2) I&#8217;m very attached to my academic work. For example, I not only save the original digital copy of a paper, but I also save material &#8220;drafts&#8221; that were part of the writing process and the graded copy. I also save all notes, research material, readings, etc. Mutiply that over 3 years of humanities grad school with 6 classes a year (with three more years to go), and you can figure out how many filing cabinents I am going to need. And don&#8217;t forget about the books that have accumulated.</p>
<p>Problem 2, though, is complicated by problem 1. I rarely get the &#8220;crap&#8221; into the filing cabinents until 2-4 semesters after the work is finished. You think I could use XMas and Summer vacations to do this work, but instead, I just enjoy using the papers as carpet. Amanda loves it too. Alot.</p>
<p>Seriously, my physchological disorder is not pack-rat-ism as much as it is fear of order. I like messes. They make the material(my papers) seem approachable. Once I get everything filed away, I am scared to mess the order up(the same reason for why I hate putting clean clothes away). Without order, though, I spend(waste) alot of time looking for whatever it is I am looking for. My current solution to all this is to look for a bigger apartment &#8212; which, I&#8217;m afraid, could turn me into a pack rat afterall.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we'll just never settle anywhere, Mom, so that I never have to deal with that stuff! More likely, I'll probably just pitch most of it out. I've become a very unsentimental person in my old age. :-) Though not as unsentimental and unattached as Nomadic Matt. We're not selling everything. As much as I like throwing stuff away, I don't like throwing money away. I don't want to get rid of good stuff at a very low price and then in one year have to rebuy it for much more. And the idea of shopping for all that stuff again makes me shudder. For some reason, Jeff thinks he does want to put that PhD to use one day, so we aren't going to be permanent vagabonds and will need much of this again. Should plans change and I decide I don't need it, I think my three brothers will find plenty of ways to put most of it to good use. In fact, I think they may be coming up with ways to do just that while we're gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we&#8217;ll just never settle anywhere, Mom, so that I never have to deal with that stuff! More likely, I&#8217;ll probably just pitch most of it out. I&#8217;ve become a very unsentimental person in my old age. <img src='http://livesofwander.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Though not as unsentimental and unattached as Nomadic Matt. We&#8217;re not selling everything. As much as I like throwing stuff away, I don&#8217;t like throwing money away. I don&#8217;t want to get rid of good stuff at a very low price and then in one year have to rebuy it for much more. And the idea of shopping for all that stuff again makes me shudder. For some reason, Jeff thinks he does want to put that PhD to use one day, so we aren&#8217;t going to be permanent vagabonds and will need much of this again. Should plans change and I decide I don&#8217;t need it, I think my three brothers will find plenty of ways to put most of it to good use. In fact, I think they may be coming up with ways to do just that while we&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mom/Mary Jane</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Mom/Mary Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Jeff, Theresa might not be a saver now but when you all bring your stuff here I will be glad to show you all the "stuff" she has stored here. From Kindergarten through college it is all here. She has lots of notebooks from high school and college, photo albums and scrapbooks, along with T shirts from all her soccer teams, Girl Scout activities and so on. And guess what? When you all settle somewhere after your trip, you get to take it all with you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jeff, Theresa might not be a saver now but when you all bring your stuff here I will be glad to show you all the &#8220;stuff&#8221; she has stored here. From Kindergarten through college it is all here. She has lots of notebooks from high school and college, photo albums and scrapbooks, along with T shirts from all her soccer teams, Girl Scout activities and so on. And guess what? When you all settle somewhere after your trip, you get to take it all with you!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to be a Theresa, but I suppose I have a little Jeff in me.  I usually feel so good about getting rid of old stuff and clearing out overstuffed closets and drawers, but our basement is just packed full of stuff and I don't even know what most of it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to be a Theresa, but I suppose I have a little Jeff in me.  I usually feel so good about getting rid of old stuff and clearing out overstuffed closets and drawers, but our basement is just packed full of stuff and I don&#8217;t even know what most of it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sell it all! If it doesn't fit in your backpack...it goes....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sell it all! If it doesn&#8217;t fit in your backpack&#8230;it goes&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/06/06/chucking-stuff/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a Theresa.  If I haven't used it in a year, then it goes to a better home even if that home is the recycling bin.  We had a neighborhood yard sale a few weeks ago and found new homes for $150 worth of stuff that we really didn't need anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Theresa.  If I haven&#8217;t used it in a year, then it goes to a better home even if that home is the recycling bin.  We had a neighborhood yard sale a few weeks ago and found new homes for $150 worth of stuff that we really didn&#8217;t need anymore.</p>
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