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	<title>Comments on: Mission Impossible: Planning the South America Itinerary</title>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/07/01/planning-the-south-america-itinerary/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What else have I got to say about your itinerary:

Apart from Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, La Paz &#38; maybe Asuncion, my advice is not to bother staying in the BIG cities.  Miraflores inside Lima is nice, but far too posh.  

The South American Handbook is the bible.  

The beaches along 95% of the west coast are crap.  95% of the beaches on the East coast are phenominal.  The northern countries have so-so beaches, but generally not great.

South America is the best damn continent in the world!  You'll have a blast.  I was there in 1990, 1992, 1995, 2000 and 2005.

It's all about the people, not the tourist draws.  South American's are all friendly - every last one of 'em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What else have I got to say about your itinerary:</p>
<p>Apart from Buenos Aires, Rio de Janeiro, La Paz &amp; maybe Asuncion, my advice is not to bother staying in the BIG cities.  Miraflores inside Lima is nice, but far too posh.  </p>
<p>The South American Handbook is the bible.  </p>
<p>The beaches along 95% of the west coast are crap.  95% of the beaches on the East coast are phenominal.  The northern countries have so-so beaches, but generally not great.</p>
<p>South America is the best damn continent in the world!  You&#8217;ll have a blast.  I was there in 1990, 1992, 1995, 2000 and 2005.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about the people, not the tourist draws.  South American&#8217;s are all friendly - every last one of &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnifique</title>
		<link>http://livesofwander.com/2008/07/01/planning-the-south-america-itinerary/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnifique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on my experience, five two to three week long trips to S. America, my suggestions are:

1. If you get bored in bars easily like I do, learn to dance on your trip, ESPECIALLY in Buenos Aires or Rio/Salvador de Bahia. I can't recommend BA enough, although you do have to be extra alert for crimes committed against tourists. For instance, a scam that I heard about (and narrowly escaped) involves cab drivers deliberately running out of gas in an isolated area. When his cabbie "friend" pulls up behind to "help," the two of them tag team the passengers.

2. Unless you know people who live there, don't stay in Lima for more than a few days; the same goes for Cusco and Quito. 

3. Visit the vineyards outside Santiago de Chile and in Cordoba. The tastings only cost around $10 and if you actually swallow your wine, you won't be able to do too many of them anyway.

4. For beaches, I recommend Ilha Grande in Brazil. A lot of people like Punta del Este in Uruguay, but I never went because it sounded like a South American version of Miami beach.  

5. Although I loved the people that I stayed with in Bolivia (American priests and nuns), I can't say that I would want to go back to Bolivia. Maybe that is because I didn't visit La Paz or the salt flats. It could also be because the food was incredibly heavy and starchy. I have to admit, many of my preferences are based on the local food and wine!

Just curious, are strained US-Venezuela relations going to have any impact on your trip planning? Also, the Brazilian real will most likely continue to appreciate against the USD, so you may want to spend your time there sooner rather than later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on my experience, five two to three week long trips to S. America, my suggestions are:</p>
<p>1. If you get bored in bars easily like I do, learn to dance on your trip, ESPECIALLY in Buenos Aires or Rio/Salvador de Bahia. I can&#8217;t recommend BA enough, although you do have to be extra alert for crimes committed against tourists. For instance, a scam that I heard about (and narrowly escaped) involves cab drivers deliberately running out of gas in an isolated area. When his cabbie &#8220;friend&#8221; pulls up behind to &#8220;help,&#8221; the two of them tag team the passengers.</p>
<p>2. Unless you know people who live there, don&#8217;t stay in Lima for more than a few days; the same goes for Cusco and Quito. </p>
<p>3. Visit the vineyards outside Santiago de Chile and in Cordoba. The tastings only cost around $10 and if you actually swallow your wine, you won&#8217;t be able to do too many of them anyway.</p>
<p>4. For beaches, I recommend Ilha Grande in Brazil. A lot of people like Punta del Este in Uruguay, but I never went because it sounded like a South American version of Miami beach.  </p>
<p>5. Although I loved the people that I stayed with in Bolivia (American priests and nuns), I can&#8217;t say that I would want to go back to Bolivia. Maybe that is because I didn&#8217;t visit La Paz or the salt flats. It could also be because the food was incredibly heavy and starchy. I have to admit, many of my preferences are based on the local food and wine!</p>
<p>Just curious, are strained US-Venezuela relations going to have any impact on your trip planning? Also, the Brazilian real will most likely continue to appreciate against the USD, so you may want to spend your time there sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory, I think you hit the nail on the head. We're not aiming for a minute-by-minute account of our time, nor even a day-by-day one. We're not plotting where we're staying, what bus we'll be on when, or the exact number of days we get to stay in Buenos Aires. We're saying, "We have one year and we definitely want to see X, Y, and Z, how do we make that happen?". X, Y, and Z aren't the only things we hope to see nor will they take up all of our time. The rest of the time is open, available for whatever comes our way, but we feel we will be disappointed if we don't see/do X, Y, and Z. Twenty-two weeks is the time we've set aside for South America. Right now we aren't planning to become lifelong nomads. We're planning a one year trip. Of course, things could change once we get going, but that is the contingency we're working on at this point. 

And though I have a certain amount of admiration for people who can wake up each day and just see what it brings, that is not me. And I would be miserable trying to be that way. It is absolutely counter to my personality, and rather than fight to  be someone I'm not, I'm going to work with what I have. For me, it's easier to say, "Well I planned to do this, but I think I'd rather just sit here and hang around," then to say, "Well I made no plans and nothing's come up, so now I have to figure out what the hell to do." 

I think we agree that we want one of the highlights of our trip to be meeting people from all over the world. But I'll go ahead and be honest and say that I hope they're the type of people who want to at least wander around town, not just sit in a bar and chat and drink. For one, my butt gets tired of sitting after about one hour on a barstool. (No, you don't want to be the person seated next to me on long flights/bus rides, as I move about every 4 minutes.) And for two, I don't like beer. :-) 

Chris. G, no blog? Sounds like you have some good stories, though I guess blogs weren't the thing in 1990! But life in a Toronto suburb...that could be interesting too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory, I think you hit the nail on the head. We&#8217;re not aiming for a minute-by-minute account of our time, nor even a day-by-day one. We&#8217;re not plotting where we&#8217;re staying, what bus we&#8217;ll be on when, or the exact number of days we get to stay in Buenos Aires. We&#8217;re saying, &#8220;We have one year and we definitely want to see X, Y, and Z, how do we make that happen?&#8221;. X, Y, and Z aren&#8217;t the only things we hope to see nor will they take up all of our time. The rest of the time is open, available for whatever comes our way, but we feel we will be disappointed if we don&#8217;t see/do X, Y, and Z. Twenty-two weeks is the time we&#8217;ve set aside for South America. Right now we aren&#8217;t planning to become lifelong nomads. We&#8217;re planning a one year trip. Of course, things could change once we get going, but that is the contingency we&#8217;re working on at this point. </p>
<p>And though I have a certain amount of admiration for people who can wake up each day and just see what it brings, that is not me. And I would be miserable trying to be that way. It is absolutely counter to my personality, and rather than fight to  be someone I&#8217;m not, I&#8217;m going to work with what I have. For me, it&#8217;s easier to say, &#8220;Well I planned to do this, but I think I&#8217;d rather just sit here and hang around,&#8221; then to say, &#8220;Well I made no plans and nothing&#8217;s come up, so now I have to figure out what the hell to do.&#8221; </p>
<p>I think we agree that we want one of the highlights of our trip to be meeting people from all over the world. But I&#8217;ll go ahead and be honest and say that I hope they&#8217;re the type of people who want to at least wander around town, not just sit in a bar and chat and drink. For one, my butt gets tired of sitting after about one hour on a barstool. (No, you don&#8217;t want to be the person seated next to me on long flights/bus rides, as I move about every 4 minutes.) And for two, I don&#8217;t like beer. <img src='http://livesofwander.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Chris. G, no blog? Sounds like you have some good stories, though I guess blogs weren&#8217;t the thing in 1990! But life in a Toronto suburb&#8230;that could be interesting too.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm about as laid back as they come but there has to be some sort of schedule/planning.  Down to the hour, minute, second?  Of course not.  But I think intermediate dates are necessary or a moving range of dates.  Its 22 weeks give or take because thats the decision that has been made to move on to Southeast Asia.  This blog may be "Lives of Wander" (and while I guarantee there will be plenty of wandering) if it turns solely into wandering Theresa and Jeff will never make it back to America because they'll be out of money somewhere in the middle of Africa.  I think the idea here is to get a ROUGH understanding of where to be around what time so it doesn't turn into 20 days in Cuzco because it was cool.  Well that leaves only 2 days for somewhere else and it may be even cooler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m about as laid back as they come but there has to be some sort of schedule/planning.  Down to the hour, minute, second?  Of course not.  But I think intermediate dates are necessary or a moving range of dates.  Its 22 weeks give or take because thats the decision that has been made to move on to Southeast Asia.  This blog may be &#8220;Lives of Wander&#8221; (and while I guarantee there will be plenty of wandering) if it turns solely into wandering Theresa and Jeff will never make it back to America because they&#8217;ll be out of money somewhere in the middle of Africa.  I think the idea here is to get a ROUGH understanding of where to be around what time so it doesn&#8217;t turn into 20 days in Cuzco because it was cool.  Well that leaves only 2 days for somewhere else and it may be even cooler.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich either!  I think there are 5 of us in the world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich either!  I think there are 5 of us in the world!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris G,

If you do not already know, you're asking the "what happens in 22 weeks" question to the queen of logistics.

Actually your first two questions seem rhetorical. The third one seems to ask for an answer. Personally, I think you make some great points. I like the "'Been There, Done That' form of traveling" term you created.

Signed (and Cheers),

Theresa's brother</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris G,</p>
<p>If you do not already know, you&#8217;re asking the &#8220;what happens in 22 weeks&#8221; question to the queen of logistics.</p>
<p>Actually your first two questions seem rhetorical. The third one seems to ask for an answer. Personally, I think you make some great points. I like the &#8220;&#8216;Been There, Done That&#8217; form of traveling&#8221; term you created.</p>
<p>Signed (and Cheers),</p>
<p>Theresa&#8217;s brother</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent a total of about a year backpacking pretty much all of South America.  I'm not you and you're not me, but here's how I see it:

The less of an itinerary you have, the more enjoyable the trip.  Adventures don't come to people with itineraries.  Itineraries also stop you from spending a few extra days in a spot you really like, or some extra time with people you really like, or to go back to a restaurant you really enjoyed.  If you're on a schedule, you're more likely to wear a watch, more likely to worry about what day it is, more likely to stress over how much time you've got left.  Throw caution to the wind - play it by ear.

When I look back on my time in South America, it's the time I spent in Cafe's with a collection of Ozzies, Kiwi's, Israeli's, German's and Brits that I remember the best.  I remember the time we had to hitchhike from Boa Vista to Manaus - this is in 1990 when there wasn't really a road there, and pretty much NOTHING in between.  I remember hanging out with my girlfriend (now wife) and we would try and go out and meet anyone that looked like they spoke any English.  I remember hanging out in Arica, Chile (gorgeous spot) reading a huge pile of novels one week.   These are the little things that created who I am today … somewhere along the way I got plunked into a Toronto suburb, but that’s a whole different story.

When you get back, everyone will want to know if you hiked the Inca Trail, go see the Perito Moreno glacier, check out the whales in Puerto Madryn, hang out on the Copacabana beach, etc. etc. etc.   The “Been There, Done That” form of travelling.  I guess you have to visit these things as you pass them, but don’t book minute by minute your trip around them!   My only regret on my trips to South America were that I didn’t spend more time hanging out in one spot.  

What happens in 22 weeks?  The coach turns back into a pumpkin?    Why such a drop-dead end date?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent a total of about a year backpacking pretty much all of South America.  I&#8217;m not you and you&#8217;re not me, but here&#8217;s how I see it:</p>
<p>The less of an itinerary you have, the more enjoyable the trip.  Adventures don&#8217;t come to people with itineraries.  Itineraries also stop you from spending a few extra days in a spot you really like, or some extra time with people you really like, or to go back to a restaurant you really enjoyed.  If you&#8217;re on a schedule, you&#8217;re more likely to wear a watch, more likely to worry about what day it is, more likely to stress over how much time you&#8217;ve got left.  Throw caution to the wind - play it by ear.</p>
<p>When I look back on my time in South America, it&#8217;s the time I spent in Cafe&#8217;s with a collection of Ozzies, Kiwi&#8217;s, Israeli&#8217;s, German&#8217;s and Brits that I remember the best.  I remember the time we had to hitchhike from Boa Vista to Manaus - this is in 1990 when there wasn&#8217;t really a road there, and pretty much NOTHING in between.  I remember hanging out with my girlfriend (now wife) and we would try and go out and meet anyone that looked like they spoke any English.  I remember hanging out in Arica, Chile (gorgeous spot) reading a huge pile of novels one week.   These are the little things that created who I am today … somewhere along the way I got plunked into a Toronto suburb, but that’s a whole different story.</p>
<p>When you get back, everyone will want to know if you hiked the Inca Trail, go see the Perito Moreno glacier, check out the whales in Puerto Madryn, hang out on the Copacabana beach, etc. etc. etc.   The “Been There, Done That” form of travelling.  I guess you have to visit these things as you pass them, but don’t book minute by minute your trip around them!   My only regret on my trips to South America were that I didn’t spend more time hanging out in one spot.  </p>
<p>What happens in 22 weeks?  The coach turns back into a pumpkin?    Why such a drop-dead end date?</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicaragua is our only Central America stop, so we've just lumped it in with South America. We won't be going through Costa Rica and Panama, but will instead fly from Nicaragua to ????. One of the other issues that we have to factor in is weather. Climbing Roraima and hiking in Patagonia have somewhat limited timeframes, so we have to try to work around that. I think we've been working more off the zig-zag idea, but may want to look a little more into the down one coast and up another approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicaragua is our only Central America stop, so we&#8217;ve just lumped it in with South America. We won&#8217;t be going through Costa Rica and Panama, but will instead fly from Nicaragua to ????. One of the other issues that we have to factor in is weather. Climbing Roraima and hiking in Patagonia have somewhat limited timeframes, so we have to try to work around that. I think we&#8217;ve been working more off the zig-zag idea, but may want to look a little more into the down one coast and up another approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also the easiest way to do this is just to go down one coast and the up the other.....thats the simpliest way to do it so you save time on transportation that way u can leave from venzeuala or if u have to back track a little to brazil....   anyother way would be to zig zag ur way down to argentina and fly out of B.A.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also the easiest way to do this is just to go down one coast and the up the other&#8230;..thats the simpliest way to do it so you save time on transportation that way u can leave from venzeuala or if u have to back track a little to brazil&#8230;.   anyother way would be to zig zag ur way down to argentina and fly out of B.A.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know nicaragua is in central america right?  does this mean you'll be going through costa rica and panama too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know nicaragua is in central america right?  does this mean you&#8217;ll be going through costa rica and panama too?</p>
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